Sunday, August 27, 2017

200TDI injector pump replaced

I hope that you have read this post first; http://poppageno.blogspot.com/2017/03/fuel-injection-pump-200tdi.html

  From it you will know that I took parts from 1 pump to make another run. Well it worked somewhat. The engine ran but until really warm was sluggish off the line and wouldn't climb a hill worth a shit! I had to be in 1st or high revving 2nd to get up my hill, one which I used to climb easily in 2nd and accelerate at the top. Now I almost wouldn't make it up in 2nd. On another local 45mph hill I was resorting to 3rd gear to do around 35 to get over.

   I knew it had to be the pump as nothing else had changed. So I studied my options. One was a new pump at around $1200. Another was send it to the local repair place 80 miles away, for $1000+ parts. Or buy a second hand used one, that seemed to be around $500 to $900 on Fleabay. None of these were cheap and within my meager budget.

So I suffered thru it until recently when I sold my 88. Then cash in had I made an executive decision.............
I bought a new one.

I found out that the injector pump comes under 2 part numbers depending on if it is Leyland or Rover. The Leyland number is ETC8625 and the Rover number is ERR0459 or sometimes ERR459. Either way they both carry the Bosch number 0460414069.

My choice was to go through Bearmach and get a ETC8625 for @$1215 w/$30 shipping. My thinking was that this would probably be around the same price as getting one of mine rebuilt. Especially knowing that I would need a shim and cam plate on one of them and who knows on the other.

Ordered on a Thursday and arrived on the next Monday!



It came with new stop solenoid and crush washers and fuel inlet banjo bolt.



So after taking care of business during the week I picked yesterday to swap out the pumps. I figured a couple of hours. It was going to be 100F later in the day so I started early at 0900.


I kinda knew what tools I needed and dragged them out and set the #1 at TDC and pulled the cover off the timing pulley and stuck in the locking pin.


Then it was a matter of pulling off the hoses and pipes to get at the injector pump. Once all that was out of the way I (following the book closely) Locked the pump with the side lock and pulled the 3 bolts on the pulley and removed the timing pin. Took out the top bolt on the oil filter adapter for clearance issues and unbolted the rear pump bracket and finally the 3 nuts holding the pump to the cover. Easy peasy, I just wish I had smaller hands as it is pretty tight in some places!

Before the pump is removed the timing pulley needs to be locked in place. There is a round disc tool that accomplishes this. Unlike the last time I had a heck of a time getting the bolts in to lock it up. I wound up removing a cadmium plated locking plate and this solved the issue, but I spent 15-20 minutes trying to get the frelling bolts in.

Taking it out I compared the old with the new and swapped parts such as fuel inlet fitting and locking pin. Here I noticed that there is a rubber thingy(technical term) on the diaphram of the new pump that is missing on mine.



It was ready so I brought it over for the install.


One of the things I had to swap over was the locking pin. This is necessary to align the pump and the timing plate and hence the crank et al. With the pump properly aligned it slide smoothly in place. It was then a matter of reversing all the installation work.


I only forgot to tighten the nuts on the injector pipes for #3&4. Other than that NO LEAKS!!
Here is one with it running.



Next up was the test drive. I should say that I didn't bleed any lines after the install as the Bosch VE pumps are self bleeding. It did take, what, 10-20 seconds on the starter to fill the pump and get ignition.

So I cleaned up a bit and threw the tools int the back and went down the hill to the mailboxes and back. I noticed right away just pulling out of the drive it no longer was sluggish and responded properly to the touch of the throttle. I went down the hill with no problem other than the damn smoking issue is still there(sigh) and turned around. coming back up the hill would be the test. I set out in first and shifted to second and kept the rpms low, about 3/4 of the way up I gave it some wellie and it spun up and charged up the rest of the way. SUCCESS!

After the test drive I opened up both my now spare pumps and swapped the parts back. Maybe my original spare works, who knows? All told it took me 3 hours and it was 93F when I was finished. So I went inside and showered and napped and later in the afternoon I drove into town and picked up a 6-pack for a job well done reward :^)

Now to tackle the smoke and oil consumption issues, most likely a ring job. :^(


Updated; Aug 28 2017, I got to say my 109 runs great now. I went up a hill that with the original pump I could do in 4th, then it was 35 in 3rd after I swapped parts into it, yesterday I went up in 4th OD with pedal to spare! WOOT! WOOT!!

Still smokes though..... :^(

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